I'm so sick of this.
And the fact that The Times feels compelled to address this non-issue. Bill Maher put it best on Saturday night: you don't have to show both sides of a debate when one side is full of shit.
There are some humorous quotes to be found however. I like Walter Paley: if you see a rock you can tell it was formed by wind and rain, but if you see a pocket watch, it's obviously been designed. What?? Clods.
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“optical precision of an eye”
I can’t believe people still say shit like this, considering in the mid-1800s (birth of physiology), everyone realized the eye is hardly precise , and so “intelligent design” was out...
I can't read the whole thing without getting loud; I hope this was mentioned. hehe.
i heart the Onion!
The ID people have a number of "theories". One is that the design was there at the inception of the universe. This is referred to as the Billiard Ball theory, i.e. God got first break and naturally all the balls went in the holes he wanted, cuz he's God.
More nuanced versions paint the designer as a sort of super-mathematician, devising all the complex laws and algorithms that govern natural science. I don't find this idea objectionable, plenty of scientists subscribed to it (Einstein for one). But it is fundamentally a matter of faith, not science.
What scares me is the patently ludicrous idea that ID deserves equal treatment within a science classroom. This idea appears to be gaining steam, what with Killy McGee (aka Prez Bush) supporting it on record.
But it's so obviously apples and oranges. In that Times article the ID-ers rage against science being confined to the material world, but that's precisely the definition of science.
Wow, this got long...
"Evolution by itself is mathematically impossible."
Oh?
Please explain this statement.
Your invocation of faith is appropriate: however you interpret evolution within your religious beliefs is fine, but your interpetation shouldn't be forced on others as science.
Science quantifies and interprets the material world. Faith suggests things above and beyond the material world. The two are mutually exclusive, for the purpose of teaching.
You use the term "Christ-follower." There are plenty of people in this country who are not "Christ-followers." What their faiths derive from science will be quite different than yours.
Faith is a matter of personal choice. Science is the study of material data. Only the latter is useful for being taught in biology class.
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